My dear great sstudents of MME,
We need to discuss about the teaching methods and teaching content that would make the studies more meaningful, interesting and efficeint.
Teaching methods would mean
-use of black board
-power point presentaion-
-assignments that you can solve on computer
-Exams on computer
-Video presentations realted to the course
-Group discussions in the class or in hostel on specific exploratory assignemnts
-Searching for information through internet and books, articles and makign your wown summary and presenting it in the class
and such constructive methods
Teaching contents
-essentiallly reducing the classromm taught (via lectures) course contents and allowing the studnets to learn more by self reading
-reducing the number of lecture hours will promote self dependent reading
- by interacting with the Porofessor concerned you clarify the doubts, get the insight and and then make your own presentation in the class.
-thereby develop efficacy in writing (written communication abilities)
-presentation woould increase the presentation capabilities.
bdeo

First of all heartiest thanks to Prof. Brahma Deo for taking such an important initiative which if followed "might"(not would) make life a lot better for the future incoming iitians.
As already laid down,so and so courses should be removed(examples there itself given),interaction between students and profs should be increased,all that is fine guys!!!
But have you guys ever thought how responsible are you from your perspective.As an instant i would like to lay down the point that we have exams every one month.
Each exam you give on an answer sheet that contains a pledge right at the beginning of the sheet which says"I would neither take assistance nor provide it during examination" and we people sign it so casually never bothering about the importance that oath matters.
Finally,its a shame when a lot percent of sudents indulge in illegal activities.
I dream of an IIT-Kanpur examination system where students take a pledge not to cheat on their answer sheets and immediately send invigilators out of the examination hall and the schedule goes in harmony.
So it would be a lot better if instead of pointing a finger on the other side,you all realize that three of your fingers are already pointed towards you.No offense.
Ankit Gupta
Y6 Batch-Hall 2

I believe, the real problem of the IITK education system is its incapability to draw the passion of students in the studies and extra curricular. This is partly because of our present education system and partly because of the context in which any student enter in IIT.

We are talking that interaction is not enough among students and professors and so we need more interactive sessions. Are class rooms not the kind of interactive session, at least for studies? If we think, that we need more interactive sessions to figure out our career paths, this is something that we need to figure out ourselves. We need no one to tell us where we should go, we just need to understand ourselves and college life is all about this. We of course need advice, for which we can make an appointment with any authority in IITK. That is not a problem. We are talking about presentation skills. You make some one so passionate that he puts his heart and soul into his work and I bet, you will find it impossible to stop him discussing his work. Presentation and communications are important, but not the point of focus. They are the byproducts of the life you live in your college.

Most of us absolutely feel that the classes and projects as a burden not at all a subject of interest. We don’t pay attention in classes, don’t understand what is being taught. On the contrary we are the best of India. I think, the things are not made in the way that they can be lent easily to our minds. Studies and the way of teachings should be in focus of individual’s ability. Many of us enter in IIT for good jobs not for good studies. So, many of us also don’t try themselves to ponder in the subjects and here, after four years of studies we are not the substance we should be, in absolute sense.

Extra curricular must be in everyone’s life to develop his personality. Let’s talk what extra curricular we have? Most of us, who have some extra curricular, are the cordi, secy or volly of some event (antragini, udgosh, teckriti…….etc.) at most. For this kind of extra curricular we work for 2 weeks before the event and 4 days in the event, if we work at all. This is the maximum level of extra curricular for most of us (not everyone). Now compare someone who is playing football uniformly for four years or working in M-club, photography…..etc. clubs for four years. Playing sports or working in club (if properly organized) demands much more work and interest than working in an event. It gives a taste, a shade or better, I can say it gives a style to our lives and here, we, the proud IITians, lack these shades in true measures. I am just giving a description of a normal IITian.

some more minor points....obviously useless courses like chm lab nd phy lab in 1st yr , PE nd all should be immediately closed down . Too much waste of time and resources .
Infact , these are the courses where the culture of FRAUD MAARNA starts in the IITK UG life....
HSS courses should be supervised( by whom??...whoever really knows what the intent of the HSS courses is) ....they hv become just courses for grades and nothing more.And some professors **** Big Time . My SOC171 prof is a case in point , doubts were looked upon suspiciously , creativity questioned and original thought forbidden .

February 14, 2008 1:15 PM

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When we will pass out from IITK we would join all kinds of companies right from 'financial firms' to 'IT giants' to the 'core industries'. The job profile would be different in all of these but most of they will have one thing in common. The job would demand good ( if not great ) presentation skills from us. And we as the students of IITK are well known for our poor communication and presentation abilities.
One of the reasons is that we don't get enough opportunities during our stay here to make presentations and improve our interpersonal skills. So why not introduce the concept of making presentations individually or in groups in the class itself ?
There are a few courses of MBA which demand frequent presentations by students. But these courses are not alloted to most of the Btech/Mtech/MSc students who opt for these as Open Electives.

Also i feel that to make the student community more involved in their studies Projects can be a very important tool. These projects may not be Experimental always and can be theoretical also.
During any project done the amount of learning one does is far greater than what can be taught in classroom.

I am a 2nd year chemical engg. student.I also think that some course content must be change.For example in ESO 218 rather than stressing more on mugging method of problem solving stress should be laid on development of computer programs for particular methods.And some more lab course must be introduced in accord with newer emerging areas and eliminating the previous ones which are of no more use e.g chm101 lab.The main flaw in the system is most of the courses are of "mugging"types rather than analytical ones.And in last i expect our comments will be taken in account

February 13, 2008 3:04 AM

nothing will chamge from such nonsense , so every one stop spreading your shit

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